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I recently reviewed the Forerunner 265, Garminās $499 running watch. In the process, I started poking at the parts of the watch and app that promised to give me a training plan, and eventually asked it to get me ready for a 5K race. (Thatās five kilometers, or 3.1 miles.) I enjoyed the training and ended up clocking my best 5K time in years. Let me tell you about how it went, and how you can potentially have a similar experience.
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$449.99 Save $30.99
Ultimately, I just wanted to put the watch through its paces for the review, so that was my main goal. I didnāt approach this by asking āhow can I get the best possible time in a race?āāalthough my thoughts did start wandering in that direction once Iād been training for a while.
Garminās app and some of their watches (depending on model) can give you training plans for a variety of distances, including marathon (26.2 miles), half-marathon (13.1 miles), 10K (6.2 miles), and 5K (3.1 mile) distances.
That shortest distance, the 5K, is a common gateway to racing for beginners. In most places, and during most seasons, you can find a 5K to race on almost any weekend. Theyāre beginner-friendly, so you donāt have to worry about whether youāre āfast enough,ā but even experienced runners can get hooked on the prospect of improving their 5K time. Iāve run plenty of 5Ks, but none recently. I did always enjoy them more than longer races.
Once I'd been training with the watch for a little while, I decided I did want to run a fast 5K, after all. What better way to test the watch's training plans than to try one myself? And what better way to test their adaptability than to constantly decline suggested workouts because, come on, life is busy and running is not my top priority? I made it through, and had a great time on race day.
When you wear a Garmin watch, youāll install an app on your phone called Garmin Connect. This allows you to view your runs and your health data from your phone, create workouts, mess with settings, and so on.
In the app, you can set up workouts in several ways.
These last two are what people usually mean when they talk about Garmin training plans. I mainly used the adaptive training plan, but Iāve played around with both and can tell you about the differences in their features.
Thereās one more way to get workouts from your Garmin watch, sort of. Some watches, including the Forerunner line, have some version of ādaily suggested workoutsā (often abbreviated DSW). The Forerunner 55 and 165 will only give you a workout for the current day, while the 265, 965, and Fenix watches will allow you to view a full weekās worth of DSW (and even let you do a future workout early).
The adaptive training plan is only available if you have a watch with weekly DSW. This includes the company's medium- and higher-end running watches, including the Forerunner 255, 265, and 965, and the Fenix line (versions 6 and up). Garmin has a full list of compatible watches here. The adaptive training plan is basically an app-friendly version of the daily suggested workouts. If your watch doesnāt support a full weekās worth of DSWāsay, you have a Vivoactive 5āyou can still use Garmin Coach, but youāll be limited to the expert plans.
If youāre trying to decide between the two types of plans, and you have a watch that supports both, here are the main differences:
The expert plans require a certain number of weeks between the start and your race day. For example, setting up a plan today (in early November), I wasnāt able to give it a race date in March. Each plan has a minimum and maximum number of training weeks, which will differ from plan to plan.
The adaptive plan, on the other hand, will work no matter when your race is. If itās far in the future, youāll just get non-specific workouts until race day is closer.
The expert programs each have a named coachāa real-life person with a face and a name. This coach doesnāt personally interact with you, but they have filmed videos describing their training philosophy and giving advice, and each expert plan has a different vibe to it. Coach Jeff will use run/walk intervals, for example (heās kind of famous for it).
The adaptive plans have none of that. Thereās no named coach, no videos with tips or encouragement. Just workouts.
The expert plans have this cute little gauge in the corner, showing how āconfidentā your coach is that youāll be able to achieve your goal. If I ask for a certain 5K time, for example, Iāll want to see that gauge in the green. That tells me Iām on track. If I slide into the orange zone, I know Iām slacking. Thereās also a red zone that means Iām really not on track, and on the other end thereās a purple zone that would mean Iām doing so well I can probably aim for a loftier goal.
In the adaptive plans, thereās no confidence gauge. (This is the main thing I miss when using the adaptive plans.) That said, watches that support the adaptive plans also tend to have a race predictor feature. You can access this through the app or through a āglanceā on the watch. So you can check at any moment to see your predicted time. This doesnāt account for future training, thoughāso if Iām targeting a 24-minute 5K, but Iām currently in 26-minute shape, Iāll see 26 minutes when I look at my race predictor.
Thereās one more big difference. Every time Iāve chosen an expert program, itās started me off with a ābenchmark run,ā and no future workouts are scheduled until Iāve done that benchmark. Thatās what I see right now on a Coach Greg 5K plan. Previously, when I set up a 10K training plan with Coach Amy, I got that benchmark run and a one-mile time trial in the first week.
The adaptive training plans, on the other hand, simply suggest workouts that will make sense for you given your current training status and goals. There are no benchmarks or time trials built in. Just to check, I started an adaptive training plan today, and the first thing on my schedule was a one-hour-long ābaseā (easyish) run.
Hereās a fun fact: if youāre doing an expert plan, you can also have access to the daily suggested workouts on your watch. Theyāll just be hidden. On the 265, press the middle left button and select Training to view your suggested workouts.
With the adaptive plan, your plan and the daily suggested workouts are one and the same. Basically, the adaptive plan is a way to view your daily suggested workouts on your phone, which wasnāt a feature the app had until recently.
On the expert plans, if you donāt like your schedule for the week, you can tap the three dots menu to reschedule a run on your calendar. This is handy if, for example, you have hill repeats scheduled for tonight but you canāt get out to the park with your favorite hill until tomorrow.
On the adaptive plans, you canāt reschedule workouts for the future. You can do a future workout today, though. And if you skip todayās workout, thereās a good chance it will show up again in the future.
The daily suggested workouts (and thus the adaptive plans) take account of any and all races you might put on your calendar. You can only designate one as your primary race for the training season, but the others can be āsupportingā events, and your suggested workouts or your adaptive plan will take them into account.
As far as I can tell, this doesnāt happen with the expert plans. Theyāre geared for the specific race you set them up for.
The expert plans are available for 5K, 10K, half-marathon, and marathon races. The adaptive plans can be geared toward a race or personal goal of any distance.
In the expert coached plans, the workouts are typically assigned with pace targets. (For example, you might be assigned to do an easy run at 10:30 minutes per mile.) You canāt change this in your settings, but you can edit individual workouts if youād like.
In the adaptive plans, workout targets may be set to either pace or heart rate, and you can switch the target as needed. For example, if Iām about to run on a hilly road, Iāll use a heart rate target, because I know Iāll slow down on those hills. After making that switch, nearly all of the runs in the plan will be given with heart rate targets instead of pace targetsāuntil or unless I decide to change it back.
Everything else Iām describing here works the same way regardless of which coaching option you use. For more on what itās like to follow different types of Garmin workouts, you can see what I wrote in my Forerunner 265 review.
Every training day, you just hit the Run button as usual (or Treadmill Run, Trail Run, or Track Run). The assigned workout for that day will pop up. After completing a workout, youāll get an execution score telling you how closely you stuck to the plan for that day. (Anything above 66% is considered good.)
Thereās no penalty for a poor execution score, or even for skipping a run. You just might find a similar workout scheduled for the future if the app thinks you need more of that kind of run in your training.
I didnāt choose a race right away when I started using a Garmin watch. I was just trying to build up mileage and be more consistent with my running habit. At first I picked a 10K plan with Coach Amy, but honestlyā¦it wasnāt for me. At least not for my current stage of training. There were threshold workouts that asked me to hold a too-fast pace for too long, and I hated them. (In hindsight, they were probably fine, but it was hot out and I was not used to doing that kind of work.)
I ended up quitting the plan, and just using the daily suggested workouts for a while. I didnāt follow them religiously; if a workout looked fun or interesting, I did it. If it looked miserable, I didnāt. You would think this kind of lackadaisical attitude would lead to poor results, but I also had a mileage target in mind every week, supplied by my own brain and not the Garmin app. As long as I got in 20 miles that week (or 25, or 30āI gradually ramped up), I knew I was doing OK.
That approach paid off. I saw my predicted 5K time creeping from the low 30 minutes down to 29, 28, and it kept dropping. āYou knowā¦ā I said to myself. āThereās a half-marathon in a cool place in October. I donāt want to do a half this year, but they have a four-mile option. Maybe Iāll sign up for the four-miler.ā I put it on my calendar, the workouts adapted, and soon I was looking at predictions for that race as well. I started to have dreams of winning an age-group medal.
Well, now that I had an actual goal race, I figured Iād try the coaching plan again. This time I used the adaptive plan and asked it to train me for a 5K (I didnāt realize that I could have asked specifically for the four-miler) and added a fake 5K race to my calendar that was the same day as the four-miler. And from that point forwardāmaybe two months out, if Iām remembering correctly?āI did my best to run as many of the planās workouts as I could.
I still skipped a few of the gnarlier threshold runs. 18 minutes at 5K pace? No thanks. But that cute little sprint workout with the 15-second bursts and long recoveries? Thatās fun, Iāll do that one any time it pops up.
Even with this imperfect training, my predicted 5K time kept dropping. And then the week of the race, disaster struck: a family event that I could not skip was rescheduled for my race day. Instead of planning a drive to the mountains to race on an abandoned highway, I used the āfind an eventā feature on the Garmin calendar to find a 5K that was the same weekend, but Saturday instead of Sunday. I lucked out: there were two options. I chose the one that was listed as āfast and flat,ā since the other was described as āchallengingā (that means hilly).
The night before my race, my watch predicted a 25:50 finish time. I ran the race, and finished in 26:04. Tragically, the GPS measurement from the watch came in at 3.09, so it never officially credited me with a new 5K PR. (Itās not an all-time PR for me, but it would have been a PR as far as Garmin knows. My best ever 5K time was 25:20, and that was thirteen years ago, so this is pretty darn great in my book.)
Hereās where I describe a few things that I donāt like, and Iāll give my advice for working around those shortcomings. Preferences vary, so you may find that what bothers me may not bother you. Still, this is my personal advice.
First, it bugs me that you canāt look ahead and see what awaits you during the entire training plan. Thatās true no matter which type of plan you choose. Thereās no way to know in Week 1 what awaits you in Week 8. Now, Iām happy to play fast and loose with 5K training, since 5Ks are low-key, low-pressure races. Theyāre quick to recover from, and they cost, what, 25 bucks to enter? If you have a bad 5K, you learn from it and you can go run another one next weekend.
If I had a big goal race planned, though, like a marathon, I wouldnāt dream of trusting the whole thing to an app that could change things around on me. Every now and then you see somebody on Reddit asking what they should do since their marathon is only a month or two away and they still havenāt had any runs longer than an hour or so. Thatās a horror story, even if it turns out that person may have set up the plan wrong or skipped so many runs it couldnāt figure out what to assign. You shouldnāt find that out the hard way.
So my advice is to give yourself a big-picture target or two for guidance. A weekly mileage target is a good one, since mileage is one of the biggest drivers of progress in running. No matter what my app suggested, I made sure I was always within range of my target mileage for the week. (For me, that was 20 to 30 miles.) Itās not a bad thing to trust a program when it gives you an occasional week thatās harder or easier than you expected, but having a rough target helps to make sure youāre not under- or overdoing it for weeks on end.
If youāre training for a longer race, like a marathon or half-marathon, youāll probably also want to have a rough sense of the length your long runs should be, and the weekly mileage you should be logging, especially in the peak weeks. Peek at an established program (one of the free ones from Hal Higdon, for example) to make sure youāre more or less on track. For example, between one and two months out from race day, you should have several runs in the 16 to 20 mile range.
The other thing to remember is that you know your body better than any app. If you need an extra rest day or an easy run instead of a workout, take it. The plan will adapt. And if you need a type of workout thatās not scheduledāhill repeats, for example, when you have a hilly race coming upājust swap it in. Youāre not hurting anybodyās feelings, and any good plan can survive a healthy dose of life getting in the way.
Full story here:
Garmin Forerunner 265 Running Smartwatch, Colorful AMOLED Display, Training Metrics and Recovery Insights, Black and Powder Gray
$419.00 at Amazon
$449.99 Save $30.99
Shop Now
Shop Now
$419.00 at Amazon
$449.99 Save $30.99
What I wanted to get out of the training plan
Ultimately, I just wanted to put the watch through its paces for the review, so that was my main goal. I didnāt approach this by asking āhow can I get the best possible time in a race?āāalthough my thoughts did start wandering in that direction once Iād been training for a while.
Garminās app and some of their watches (depending on model) can give you training plans for a variety of distances, including marathon (26.2 miles), half-marathon (13.1 miles), 10K (6.2 miles), and 5K (3.1 mile) distances.
That shortest distance, the 5K, is a common gateway to racing for beginners. In most places, and during most seasons, you can find a 5K to race on almost any weekend. Theyāre beginner-friendly, so you donāt have to worry about whether youāre āfast enough,ā but even experienced runners can get hooked on the prospect of improving their 5K time. Iāve run plenty of 5Ks, but none recently. I did always enjoy them more than longer races.
Once I'd been training with the watch for a little while, I decided I did want to run a fast 5K, after all. What better way to test the watch's training plans than to try one myself? And what better way to test their adaptability than to constantly decline suggested workouts because, come on, life is busy and running is not my top priority? I made it through, and had a great time on race day.
How training plans work on Garmin watches
When you wear a Garmin watch, youāll install an app on your phone called Garmin Connect. This allows you to view your runs and your health data from your phone, create workouts, mess with settings, and so on.
In the app, you can set up workouts in several ways.
You can create workouts and add them to your calendar. The workout you added will pop up when you begin a run from your watch on that day.
You can download or sync a training plan from another app or source. For example, the Runna app can add workouts to your Garmin calendar.
You can use the Garmin coach feature to choose one of the Garmin Coach āexpertā plans with Coach Greg, Coach Amy, or Coach Jeff.
On some watches, including the Forerunner 265 and up, you can use the Garmin Coach feature to choose an adaptive training plan.
These last two are what people usually mean when they talk about Garmin training plans. I mainly used the adaptive training plan, but Iāve played around with both and can tell you about the differences in their features.
Thereās one more way to get workouts from your Garmin watch, sort of. Some watches, including the Forerunner line, have some version of ādaily suggested workoutsā (often abbreviated DSW). The Forerunner 55 and 165 will only give you a workout for the current day, while the 265, 965, and Fenix watches will allow you to view a full weekās worth of DSW (and even let you do a future workout early).
The adaptive training plan is only available if you have a watch with weekly DSW. This includes the company's medium- and higher-end running watches, including the Forerunner 255, 265, and 965, and the Fenix line (versions 6 and up). Garmin has a full list of compatible watches here. The adaptive training plan is basically an app-friendly version of the daily suggested workouts. If your watch doesnāt support a full weekās worth of DSWāsay, you have a Vivoactive 5āyou can still use Garmin Coach, but youāll be limited to the expert plans.
How Garminās expert plans compare to their adaptive plans
If youāre trying to decide between the two types of plans, and you have a watch that supports both, here are the main differences:
Timing
The expert plans require a certain number of weeks between the start and your race day. For example, setting up a plan today (in early November), I wasnāt able to give it a race date in March. Each plan has a minimum and maximum number of training weeks, which will differ from plan to plan.
The adaptive plan, on the other hand, will work no matter when your race is. If itās far in the future, youāll just get non-specific workouts until race day is closer.
A friendly face
The expert programs each have a named coachāa real-life person with a face and a name. This coach doesnāt personally interact with you, but they have filmed videos describing their training philosophy and giving advice, and each expert plan has a different vibe to it. Coach Jeff will use run/walk intervals, for example (heās kind of famous for it).
The adaptive plans have none of that. Thereās no named coach, no videos with tips or encouragement. Just workouts.
The confidence gauge
The expert plans have this cute little gauge in the corner, showing how āconfidentā your coach is that youāll be able to achieve your goal. If I ask for a certain 5K time, for example, Iāll want to see that gauge in the green. That tells me Iām on track. If I slide into the orange zone, I know Iām slacking. Thereās also a red zone that means Iām really not on track, and on the other end thereās a purple zone that would mean Iām doing so well I can probably aim for a loftier goal.
In the adaptive plans, thereās no confidence gauge. (This is the main thing I miss when using the adaptive plans.) That said, watches that support the adaptive plans also tend to have a race predictor feature. You can access this through the app or through a āglanceā on the watch. So you can check at any moment to see your predicted time. This doesnāt account for future training, thoughāso if Iām targeting a 24-minute 5K, but Iām currently in 26-minute shape, Iāll see 26 minutes when I look at my race predictor.
What the first few workouts look like
Thereās one more big difference. Every time Iāve chosen an expert program, itās started me off with a ābenchmark run,ā and no future workouts are scheduled until Iāve done that benchmark. Thatās what I see right now on a Coach Greg 5K plan. Previously, when I set up a 10K training plan with Coach Amy, I got that benchmark run and a one-mile time trial in the first week.
The adaptive training plans, on the other hand, simply suggest workouts that will make sense for you given your current training status and goals. There are no benchmarks or time trials built in. Just to check, I started an adaptive training plan today, and the first thing on my schedule was a one-hour-long ābaseā (easyish) run.
Overlap with daily suggested workouts
Hereās a fun fact: if youāre doing an expert plan, you can also have access to the daily suggested workouts on your watch. Theyāll just be hidden. On the 265, press the middle left button and select Training to view your suggested workouts.
With the adaptive plan, your plan and the daily suggested workouts are one and the same. Basically, the adaptive plan is a way to view your daily suggested workouts on your phone, which wasnāt a feature the app had until recently.
Rescheduling
On the expert plans, if you donāt like your schedule for the week, you can tap the three dots menu to reschedule a run on your calendar. This is handy if, for example, you have hill repeats scheduled for tonight but you canāt get out to the park with your favorite hill until tomorrow.
On the adaptive plans, you canāt reschedule workouts for the future. You can do a future workout today, though. And if you skip todayās workout, thereās a good chance it will show up again in the future.
Other races on your calendar
The daily suggested workouts (and thus the adaptive plans) take account of any and all races you might put on your calendar. You can only designate one as your primary race for the training season, but the others can be āsupportingā events, and your suggested workouts or your adaptive plan will take them into account.
As far as I can tell, this doesnāt happen with the expert plans. Theyāre geared for the specific race you set them up for.
Race distances
The expert plans are available for 5K, 10K, half-marathon, and marathon races. The adaptive plans can be geared toward a race or personal goal of any distance.
Training with heart rate
In the expert coached plans, the workouts are typically assigned with pace targets. (For example, you might be assigned to do an easy run at 10:30 minutes per mile.) You canāt change this in your settings, but you can edit individual workouts if youād like.
In the adaptive plans, workout targets may be set to either pace or heart rate, and you can switch the target as needed. For example, if Iām about to run on a hilly road, Iāll use a heart rate target, because I know Iāll slow down on those hills. After making that switch, nearly all of the runs in the plan will be given with heart rate targets instead of pace targetsāuntil or unless I decide to change it back.
How to use the workouts from the training plan
Everything else Iām describing here works the same way regardless of which coaching option you use. For more on what itās like to follow different types of Garmin workouts, you can see what I wrote in my Forerunner 265 review.
Every training day, you just hit the Run button as usual (or Treadmill Run, Trail Run, or Track Run). The assigned workout for that day will pop up. After completing a workout, youāll get an execution score telling you how closely you stuck to the plan for that day. (Anything above 66% is considered good.)
Thereās no penalty for a poor execution score, or even for skipping a run. You just might find a similar workout scheduled for the future if the app thinks you need more of that kind of run in your training.
What I did for my race
I didnāt choose a race right away when I started using a Garmin watch. I was just trying to build up mileage and be more consistent with my running habit. At first I picked a 10K plan with Coach Amy, but honestlyā¦it wasnāt for me. At least not for my current stage of training. There were threshold workouts that asked me to hold a too-fast pace for too long, and I hated them. (In hindsight, they were probably fine, but it was hot out and I was not used to doing that kind of work.)
I ended up quitting the plan, and just using the daily suggested workouts for a while. I didnāt follow them religiously; if a workout looked fun or interesting, I did it. If it looked miserable, I didnāt. You would think this kind of lackadaisical attitude would lead to poor results, but I also had a mileage target in mind every week, supplied by my own brain and not the Garmin app. As long as I got in 20 miles that week (or 25, or 30āI gradually ramped up), I knew I was doing OK.
That approach paid off. I saw my predicted 5K time creeping from the low 30 minutes down to 29, 28, and it kept dropping. āYou knowā¦ā I said to myself. āThereās a half-marathon in a cool place in October. I donāt want to do a half this year, but they have a four-mile option. Maybe Iāll sign up for the four-miler.ā I put it on my calendar, the workouts adapted, and soon I was looking at predictions for that race as well. I started to have dreams of winning an age-group medal.
Well, now that I had an actual goal race, I figured Iād try the coaching plan again. This time I used the adaptive plan and asked it to train me for a 5K (I didnāt realize that I could have asked specifically for the four-miler) and added a fake 5K race to my calendar that was the same day as the four-miler. And from that point forwardāmaybe two months out, if Iām remembering correctly?āI did my best to run as many of the planās workouts as I could.
I still skipped a few of the gnarlier threshold runs. 18 minutes at 5K pace? No thanks. But that cute little sprint workout with the 15-second bursts and long recoveries? Thatās fun, Iāll do that one any time it pops up.
Even with this imperfect training, my predicted 5K time kept dropping. And then the week of the race, disaster struck: a family event that I could not skip was rescheduled for my race day. Instead of planning a drive to the mountains to race on an abandoned highway, I used the āfind an eventā feature on the Garmin calendar to find a 5K that was the same weekend, but Saturday instead of Sunday. I lucked out: there were two options. I chose the one that was listed as āfast and flat,ā since the other was described as āchallengingā (that means hilly).
The night before my race, my watch predicted a 25:50 finish time. I ran the race, and finished in 26:04. Tragically, the GPS measurement from the watch came in at 3.09, so it never officially credited me with a new 5K PR. (Itās not an all-time PR for me, but it would have been a PR as far as Garmin knows. My best ever 5K time was 25:20, and that was thirteen years ago, so this is pretty darn great in my book.)
My advice for running with the Garmin coached plans (any of them)
Hereās where I describe a few things that I donāt like, and Iāll give my advice for working around those shortcomings. Preferences vary, so you may find that what bothers me may not bother you. Still, this is my personal advice.
First, it bugs me that you canāt look ahead and see what awaits you during the entire training plan. Thatās true no matter which type of plan you choose. Thereās no way to know in Week 1 what awaits you in Week 8. Now, Iām happy to play fast and loose with 5K training, since 5Ks are low-key, low-pressure races. Theyāre quick to recover from, and they cost, what, 25 bucks to enter? If you have a bad 5K, you learn from it and you can go run another one next weekend.
If I had a big goal race planned, though, like a marathon, I wouldnāt dream of trusting the whole thing to an app that could change things around on me. Every now and then you see somebody on Reddit asking what they should do since their marathon is only a month or two away and they still havenāt had any runs longer than an hour or so. Thatās a horror story, even if it turns out that person may have set up the plan wrong or skipped so many runs it couldnāt figure out what to assign. You shouldnāt find that out the hard way.
So my advice is to give yourself a big-picture target or two for guidance. A weekly mileage target is a good one, since mileage is one of the biggest drivers of progress in running. No matter what my app suggested, I made sure I was always within range of my target mileage for the week. (For me, that was 20 to 30 miles.) Itās not a bad thing to trust a program when it gives you an occasional week thatās harder or easier than you expected, but having a rough target helps to make sure youāre not under- or overdoing it for weeks on end.
If youāre training for a longer race, like a marathon or half-marathon, youāll probably also want to have a rough sense of the length your long runs should be, and the weekly mileage you should be logging, especially in the peak weeks. Peek at an established program (one of the free ones from Hal Higdon, for example) to make sure youāre more or less on track. For example, between one and two months out from race day, you should have several runs in the 16 to 20 mile range.
The other thing to remember is that you know your body better than any app. If you need an extra rest day or an easy run instead of a workout, take it. The plan will adapt. And if you need a type of workout thatās not scheduledāhill repeats, for example, when you have a hilly race coming upājust swap it in. Youāre not hurting anybodyās feelings, and any good plan can survive a healthy dose of life getting in the way.
Full story here: